New Firm (Scotland)

New Firm
Locale North-east Scotland
Teams Aberdeen and Dundee Utd
Statistics
Meetings total 236
Most wins Aberdeen

The New Firm is the term used, hailing from the 1980s, to describe the rivalry between Scottish football clubs Aberdeen and Dundee United. Both clubs are located on the east coast of Scotland, in the third and fourth most populous cities respectively.

Although not traditionally a derby, with 65 miles separating both teams, the fixture was seen as a North-east of Scotland derby between the two most successful teams in Scotland outside of the Old Firm during the 1980s. Dundee United also have a more traditional rivalry with their close neighbours Dundee.

History

The term originated in the 1980s, when both clubs challenged the Old Firm for domestic trophies.[1] The term was used by Evening Times and The Glasgow Herald.[2][3]

The Old Firm have more often than not been the dominant force in Scottish Football, however throughout the 1980s both Aberdeen and Dundee United were more than a match for them, regularly beating them home and away and winning most of the trophies on offer.

Aberdeen were to win the Scottish Premier Division three times, the Scottish Cup four times, the Scottish League Cup twice and the European Cup Winners Cup and the European Super Cup, all within the 1980s.

In this same period, Dundee United won the Scottish Premier Division once, and the Scottish League Cup twice, as well as reaching the Scottish Cup final four times, the UEFA Cup final, and the European Cup semi-final.

Not only were the Old Firm not dominating the title race, for three seasons in a row, 1983 through to 1985, the league title went to either Aberdeen or Dundee United, meaning for the first time two other teams were dominating Scottish Football.

Both sides' success was limited as they entered the 1990s. Aberdeen winning the Scottish Cup in 1990, and reaching cup finals in 1992 and 1993 as well as almost winning the league in 1991, while Dundee United were cup finalists in 1991 and Scottish Cup winners in 1994. However, in the 1994/95 season both sides fought relegation, and although Aberdeen won the Scottish League Cup in 1995 and Dundee United the Scottish Cup in 2010, neither side has managed to be a consistent force for Rangers and Celtic to reckon with, and Aberdeen's league success in 1984/85 is the last time a team from outside the Old Firm has won the Scottish league title.

Domestic head-to-head

In domestic head-to-head matches, the teams have played each other 236 times, Aberdeen winning 93 compared to United's 76.[4] Aberdeen have won more league and Scottish Cup matches while United have won more League Cup matches between the two.

After 2 May 2015:
Team League Scottish Cup League Cup Total
Aberdeen 73 11 9 93
Dundee United 59 6 11 76
Draw 53 9 5 67

League competition

Scottish Premiership Table (2013/14-present - 1st Season)

As of 23 November 2014:
Club Seasons Played W D L GF GA GD Pts
Aberdeen2522891573551893
Dundee United25225111690652586

SPL Table (1998/99-2012/13 - 15 Seasons)

Club Seasons Played W D L GF GA GD Pts
Aberdeen15566188143235651785-134707
Dundee United15566173162231674845-171681

European competition

As of 9 August 2012:
Team T P W D L F A
Dundee United 26 110 46 30 34 168 116
Aberdeen 27 109 44 28 37 160 130

Players at both clubs

Nine players have signed for Dundee United directly from Aberdeen, the last being in 2000. Ten have made the opposite journey from Tannadice to Pittodrie, with five since August 2005.

Aberdeen to Dundee United

Date Player Fee
00 000 1964 Scotland Thom, LewisLewis Thom Unknown[5]
00 000 1976 Scotland Williamson, BillyBilly Williamson Unknown[6]
1 July 1983 Scotland Gardiner, JohnJohn Gardiner Unknown[7]
5 November 1995 Scotland McKinnon, RayRay McKinnon £200,000[8]
19 March 1997 Scotland McKimmie, StewartStewart McKimmie Free[9]
1 July 1998 Scotland Miller, JoeJoe Miller Free[10]
23 September 1998 Scotland Dodds, BillyBilly Dodds Swap[11]
19 January 2000 Scotland Hamilton, JimJim Hamilton £150,000[12]
8 June 2000 Scotland Buchan, JamieJamie Buchan Free[13]

Dundee United to Aberdeen

Date Player Fee
00 Oct 1966 Scotland Munro, FrankFrank Munro £10,000[14]
9 January 1974 Scotland Henry, JimJim Henry £20,000[15]
28 March 1992 Finland Paatelainen, MixuMixu Paatelainen £400,000[16]
2 June 1998 Scotland Perry, MarkMark Perry Free[17]
23 September 1998 Scotland Winters, RobbieRobbie Winters £700,000[11]
31 August 2005 Scotland Crawford, StevieStevie Crawford Free[18]
31 August 2006 Scotland Miller, LeeLee Miller Free[19]
1 June 2007 Scotland Mair, LeeLee Mair Free[20]
18 January 2008 Scotland Duff, StuartStuart Duff Free[21]
7 July 2008 Scotland Kerr, MarkMark Kerr Free[22]

Complete list

In addition, other players have played for both clubs without moving directly between them. A list of all players to have played at least one first-team game for both clubs is displayed below.

Player records

A list of players to have scored in derby matches between the two from 27 August 1994 up to 2 May 2015 is below:

For both clubs

Scorer Goals
Scotland Winters, RobbieRobbie Winters
14
Scotland Dodds, BillyBilly Dodds
10
Scotland Robson, BarryBarry Robson
6
Scotland Crawford, StevieStevie Crawford
4
Scotland Miller, LeeLee Miller
3

Aberdeen goalscorers

Scorer Goals
Scotland Mackie, DarrenDarren Mackie
8
Norway Stavrum, ArildArild Stavrum
7
Scotland Winters, RobbieRobbie Winters
7
England Vernon, ScottScott Vernon
5
Scotland Nicholson, BarryBarry Nicholson
4
Scotland Young, DerekDerek Young
4
Scotland Crawford, StevieStevie Crawford
3
Scotland Diamond, ZanderZander Diamond
3
Scotland Dodds, BillyBilly Dodds
3
Northern Ireland McGinn, NiallNiall McGinn
3
Scotland McGuire, PhilPhil McGuire
3
Republic of Ireland Rooney, AdamAdam Rooney
3
Scotland Sheerin, PaulPaul Sheerin
3
England Windass, DeanDean Windass
3
Iceland Árnason, KáriKári Árnason
2
Scotland Booth, ScottScott Booth
2
Scotland Considine, AndrewAndrew Considine
2
Scotland Jess, EoinEoin Jess
2
Scotland Kane, PaulPaul Kane
2
Scotland Miller, LeeLee Miller
2
Scotland Severin, ScottScott Severin
2
Scotland Tosh, SteveSteve Tosh
2
Morocco Zerouali, HichamHicham Zerouali
2
England Aluko, SoneSone Aluko
1
Morocco Belabed, RachidRachid Belabed
1
Republic of Ireland Byrne, RichieRichie Byrne
1
Scotland Clark, ChrisChris Clark
1
Algeria Chalali, MohamedMohamed Chalali
1
Montserrat Daniels, DonervonDonervon Daniels
1
Scotland Dow, AndyAndy Dow
1
Scotland Foster, RickyRicky Foster
1
Scotland Grant, BrianBrian Grant
1
England Hinds, LeighLeigh Hinds
1
Scotland Jack, RyanRyan Jack
1
Bulgaria Kiriakov, IlianIlian Kiriakov
1
France Kombouaré, ToniToni Kombouaré
1
England Lovell, SteveSteve Lovell
1
Northern Ireland Magennis, JoshJosh Magennis
1
Scotland Maguire, ChrisChris Maguire
1
France Mawéné, YoulYoul Mawéné
1
England Mike, LeonLeon Mike
1
Scotland Mulgrew, CharlieCharlie Mulgrew
1
Scotland Paton, MichaelMichael Paton
1
Scotland Pawlett, PeterPeter Pawlett
1
Scotland Robson, BarryBarry Robson
1
Scotland Shearer, DuncanDuncan Shearer
1
Scotland Smith, JamieJamie Smith
1
Norway Solberg, ThomasThomas Solberg
1
Scotland Stewart, JohnJohn Stewart
1
Netherlands Touzani, KarimKarim Touzani
1
Democratic Republic of the Congo Zola, CalvinCalvin Zola
1
Own goals
1

Dundee United goalscorers

Scorer Goals
Sweden Olofsson, KjellKjell Olofsson
8
Scotland Dodds, BillyBilly Dodds
7
Scotland Winters, RobbieRobbie Winters
7
Republic of Ireland Daly, JonJon Daly
6
Scotland Easton, CraigCraig Easton
5
Scotland Robson, BarryBarry Robson
5
Scotland Hannah, DavidDavid Hannah
4
Scotland Goodwillie, DavidDavid Goodwillie
3
Scotland McLaren, AndyAndy McLaren
3
Spain Sandaza, FranciscoFrancisco Sandaza
3
Scotland Archibald, AlanAlan Archibald
2
Scotland Cameron, GregGreg Cameron
2
Scotland Conway, CraigCraig Conway
2
Spain Fernandez, DavidDavid Fernandez
2
Senegal Gomis, MorgaroMorgaro Gomis
2
Scotland Grady, JamesJames Grady
2
Republic of Ireland Hunt, NoelNoel Hunt
2
Scotland McSwegan, GaryGary McSwegan
2
Scotland Miller, CharlieCharlie Miller
2
Scotland Miller, JoeJoe Miller
2
Scotland Pressley, StevenSteven Pressley
2
Scotland Robertson, DavidDavid Robertson
2
Trinidad and Tobago Samuel, CollinCollin Samuel
2
Scotland Swanson, DannyDanny Swanson
2
Scotland Thompson, StevenSteven Thompson
2
England Boulding, RoryRory Boulding
1
Scotland Brewster, CraigCraig Brewster
1
Argentina Casalinuovo, DamianDamian Casalinuovo
1
Turkey Çiftçi, NadirNadir Çiftçi
1
Scotland Crawford, StevieStevie Crawford
1
Finland Dalla Valle, LauriLauri Dalla Valle
1
Republic of Ireland Dillon, SeánSeán Dillon
1
Scotland Dods, DarrenDarren Dods
1
Scotland Douglas, BarryBarry Douglas
1
Scotland Dow, RyanRyan Dow
1
Scotland Erskine, ChrisChris Erskine
1
Northern Ireland Feeney, WarrenWarren Feeney
1
Portugal Ferraz, JoaquimJoaquim Ferraz
1
Northern Ireland Griffin, DannyDanny Griffin
1
Republic of Ireland Gunning, GavinGavin Gunning
1
Scotland Hamilton, JimJim Hamilton
1
Norway Kalvenes, ChristianChristian Kalvenes
1
Scotland Lilley, DerekDerek Lilley
1
Scotland McConalogue, StephenStephen McConalogue
1
Scotland McIntyre, JimJim McIntyre
1
Scotland Mackay-Steven, GaryGary Mackay-Steven
1
Scotland Miller, LeeLee Miller
1
Northern Ireland Morris, CallumCallum Morris
1
Scotland Muirhead, RobbieRobbie Muirhead
1
Scotland Paterson, JimJim Paterson
1
Northern Ireland Paton, PaulPaul Paton
1
Scotland Rankin, JohnJohn Rankin
1
Trinidad and Tobago Scotland, JasonJason Scotland
1
Scotland Souttar, JohnJohn Souttar
1
Greece Venetis, TassosTassos Venetis
1
Scotland Welsh, BrianBrian Welsh
1
Scotland Wilson, MarkMark Wilson
1
Sweden Zetterlund, LarsLars Zetterlund
1
Own goals
2

Partial game list

Fixtures from 27 August 1994 to the present day featuring League games, Scottish Cup and League Cup matches.[23][24] Aberdeen wins are coloured in red, United wins in tangerine and draws are grey.

DateCompetitionVenueResultCrowdScorers (Aberdeen)Scorers (United)
27 August 1994 Premier Division Tannadice
2-1
9,332GrantWelsh, Brewster
29 October 1994 Premier Division Pittodrie
3-0
11,744Kane (2), Booth
2 January 1995 Premier Division Tannadice
0-0
10,560
6 May 1995 Premier Division Pittodrie
2-1
20,124Dodds, ShearerWinters
28 September 1996 Premier Division Tannadice
1-0
10,359McSwegan
16 November 1996 Premier Division Pittodrie
3-3
13,807Kiriakov, Kombouaré, DoddsMcLaren, Winters, Olofsson
1 January 1997 Premier Division Tannadice
4-0
9,736Winters, Pressley (2), Olofsson
15 March 1997 Premier Division Pittodrie
1-1
13,645WindassOlofsson
30 August 1997 Premier Division Pittodrie
1-1
12,060DoddsWinters
15 October 1997 League Cup SF Tynecastle
1-3
10,456WindassWinters (2), Easton
9 November 1997 Premier Division Tannadice
5-0
7,893Olofsson (2), Zetterlund, McLaren, Easton
3 January 1998 Premier Division Pittodrie
1-0
17,025Windass
24 January 1998 Scottish Cup R3 Tannadice
1-0
11,488Winters
11 April 1998 Premier Division Tannadice
0-0
9,155
4 October 1998 Premier League Tannadice
1-0
8,933McSwegan
28 November 1998 Premier League Pittodrie
0-3
11,964Olofsson, J.Miller, Easton
20 February 1999 Premier League Tannadice
3-0
8,309Olofsson, Dodds, Hannah
17 April 1999 Premier League Pittodrie
0-4
11,603Dodds (2), J.Miller, Olofsson
18 September 1999 Premier League Pittodrie
1-2
11,814DowHannah, Dodds
6 November 1999 Premier League Tannadice
3-1
8,170SolbergDodds (2), Paterson
27 December 1999 Premier League Pittodrie
3-1
16,656Zerouali, Belabed, StavrumHannah
13 February 2000 League Cup SF Dens
1-0
9,500Stavrum
12 March 2000 Scottish Cup QF Tannadice
0-1
6,738Jess
25 March 2000 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
6,723StavrumFerraz
23 September 2000 Premier League Tannadice
3-5
7,699Winters (3), Young, JessEaston, McConalogue, Hannah
17 March 2001 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
8,457WintersC.Miller
4 April 2001 Premier League Pittodrie
4-1
9,962Stavrum (3), YoungGriffin
20 May 2001 Premier League Pittodrie
1-2
11,633StavrumVenetis, Lilley
15 September 2001 Premier League Pittodrie
2-1
12,948Winters, ZeroualiMcIntyre
15 December 2001 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
9,129WintersEaston
16 February 2002 Premier League Pittodrie
4-0
13,612Winters, Young (2), Mike
11 September 2002 Premier League Pittodrie
1-2
10,724MackieThompson (2)
30 November 2002 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
8,621McGuireHamilton
16 February 2003 Premier League Pittodrie
3-0
9,146Sheerin (2), McGuire
24 May 2003 Premier League Tannadice
0-2
8,516Mackie, Tosh
18 October 2003 Premier League Pittodrie
0-1
11,234McLaren
17 January 2004 Premier League Tannadice
3-2
8,888Booth, ClarkRobson, C.Miller, Dodds
3 April 2004 Premier League Pittodrie
3-0
8,449Hinds, McGuire, Sheerin
11 September 2004 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
10,995MackieWilson
27 November 2004 Premier League Pittodrie
1-0
12,038Tosh
27 February 2005 Scottish Cup QF Tannadice
4-1
8,661ByrneArchibald, Grady (2), Crawford
2 March 2005 Premier League Tannadice
1-2
6,688Diamond, StewartScotland
30 July 2005 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
12,404NicholsonL.Miller
25 October 2005 Premier League Pittodrie
2-0
10,720Smith, Crawford
7 January 2006 Scottish Cup R3 Tannadice
2-3
8,218Crawford (2), NicholsonFernandez (2)
21 January 2006 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
9,936MackieArchibald
21 October 2006 Premier League Pittodrie
3-1
10,747Mackie, Nicholson (2)Robson
30 December 2006 Premier League Tannadice
3-1
12,329SeverinSamuel (2), Robson
7 April 2007 Premier League Pittodrie
2-4
12,148Lovell, MackieDaly, Hunt, Cameron (2)
4 August 2007 Premier League Tannadice
1-0
12,496D.Robertson
3 November 2007 Premier League Pittodrie
2-0
11,964Aluko, L.Miller
19 January 2008 Premier League Tannadice
3-0
8,579Hunt, Robson (2)
5 February 2008 League Cup SF Tynecastle
1-4
12,046ConsidineDods, Kalvenes, Conway, Gomis
3 May 2008 Premier League Pittodrie
2-1
10,312Foster, TouzaniSwanson
20 September 2008 Premier League Pittodrie
0-1
11,041Sandaza
8 November 2008 Premier League Tannadice
2-1
9,490MackieSandaza, Feeney
21 February 2009 Premier League Pittodrie
2-2
14,673Severin, DiamondSandaza, D.Robertson
7 May 2009 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
10,407L.MillerGoodwillie
24 October 2009 Premier League Pittodrie
0-2
11,776Casalinuovo, Gomis
2 January 2010 Premier League Tannadice
0-1
10,032Mulgrew
20 March 2010 Premier League Pittodrie
2-2
9,316Diamond, PatonDaly (2)
11 September 2010 Premier League Tannadice
3-1
9,793VernonDaly, og, Goodwillie
1 January 2011 Premier League Pittodrie
1-1
12,487MaguireGoodwillie
7 March 2011 Premier League Tannadice
3-1
7,416MagennisDouglas, Conway, Swanson
15 October 2011 Premier League Pittodrie
3-1
10,256Árnason, Mawéné, ConsidineDalla Valle
2 January 2012 Premier League Tannadice
1-2
11,471Chalali, ÁrnasonDaly
7 April 2012 Premier League Pittodrie
3-1
8,439Mackie, Clark, JackDaly
20 October 2012 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
9,858McGinnRankin
2 January 2013 Premier League Pittodrie
2-2
13,176Vernon, McGinnGunning, og
6 April 2013 Premier League Tannadice
1-0
8,577Boulding
19 October 2013 Premiership Pittodrie
1-0
12,654Zola
1 January 2014 Premiership Tannadice
1-2
12,601Robson, PawlettSouttar
29 March 2014 Premiership Pittodrie
1-1
14,627McGinnPaton
6 May 2014 Premiership Tannadice
1-3
8,677Vernon (3)Dillon
10 August 2014 Premiership Pittodrie
0-3
16,471Dow, Mackay-Steven, Erskine
13 December 2014 Premiership Tannadice
0-2
11,196Rooney (2)
31 January 2015 League Cup SF Hampden
2-1
29,608DanielsMorris, Ciftci
18 April 2015 Premiership Pittodrie
1-0
12,619Rooney
2 May 2015 Premiership Tannadice
1-0
8,686Muirhead

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